{"id":2712,"date":"2003-02-02T23:27:10","date_gmt":"2003-02-02T23:27:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/w174.i8u.com\/?p=2712"},"modified":"2010-04-06T03:48:02","modified_gmt":"2010-04-06T03:48:02","slug":"interview-by-artcogitans","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.francejobin.com\/?p=2712","title":{"rendered":"Interview by artcogitans"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/w174.i8u.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/02\/P1030569.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-3044\" title=\"P1030569\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/w174.i8u.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/02\/P1030569.jpg?resize=525%2C295\" alt=\"\" width=\"525\" height=\"295\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.francejobin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/02\/P1030569.jpg?w=1920&amp;ssl=1 1920w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.francejobin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/02\/P1030569.jpg?resize=300%2C168&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.francejobin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/02\/P1030569.jpg?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.francejobin.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2003\/02\/P1030569.jpg?w=1575&amp;ssl=1 1575w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 706px) 89vw, (max-width: 767px) 82vw, 740px\" \/><\/a>Interview de artcogitans avec I8U<\/p>\n<p>Question 1 :<br \/>\nA propos de votre animation Obstacle (2003)(1), vous parlez de votre &#8220;obsession&#8221; au sujet des &#8220;transitions&#8221;. Et il est manifeste que cette cr\u00e9ation rend compte de cet int\u00e9r\u00eat majeur dans votre pratique artistique, pour ce th\u00e8me, \u00e0 tel point que l&#8217;on pourrait dire qu&#8217;Obstacle n&#8217;est que &#8220;transitions&#8221;. Pourriez-vous nous dire d&#8217;o\u00f9 vous vient cette obsession? Pourquoi ce th\u00e8me r\u00e9current dans vos cr\u00e9ations ?<\/p>\n<p>A -My obsession with transitions comes from my quest for fluidity. Often we cannot say why we like a particular piece of art. We simply feel, not knowing why. Personally, I can usually discover a disparity that I fail to digest, a failed transition that can cause me not to like a piece. In my music as in my life, emotion and feelings can change and it is in the transition that one is the most vulnerable. It is perhaps a need to teach or to learn, that the transition will hold an important position in my work.<\/p>\n<p>Question 2 :<br \/>\nCette animation qui part d&#8217;un point pour aboutir \u00e0 une construction tr\u00e8s \u00e9labor\u00e9e, excessivement structur\u00e9e, n&#8217;est constitu\u00e9e que de &#8220;passages&#8221;. Passage d&#8217;un point \u00e0 un autre, d&#8217;un ensemble de points \u00e0 une ligne, d&#8217;une ligne \u00e0 une autre, passage d&#8217;une couleur \u00e0 une autre aussi, passage d&#8217;un son \u00e0 un autre aussi ; avant de dispara\u00eetre et r\u00e9appara\u00eetre sous une autre forme. Et l&#8217;on sait \u00e0 quel point l&#8217;\u00e9l\u00e9ment sonore occupe une place pr\u00e9pond\u00e9rante dans vos cr\u00e9ations. Ne faudrait-il pas voir dans ces lignes, dans ces points de passage le d\u00e9sir de donner \u00e0 voir l&#8217;invisible ? Ne faudrait-il pas lire votre animation comme un d\u00e9sir de faire r\u00e9fl\u00e9chir l&#8217;internaute, sur ce qui, justement, ne se donne pas \u00e0 voir imm\u00e9diatement, mais \u00e0 saisir de mani\u00e8re indirecte ?<\/p>\n<p>A &#8211; My intent is definitely to make the user reflect on what is not seemingly evident, I am not one to dictate to or walk someone through a work. I believe that its effectiveness lies in one&#8217;s ability to draw one&#8217;s own conclusions. I do hope the work will trigger a &#8220;r\u00e9flexion&#8221; based on one&#8217;s own frame of references and what the work may evoke in that regard. As in Plato&#8217;s allegory of the cave, some see the shadow, some see the puppet and others the light from outside.<\/p>\n<p>Question 3 :<br \/>\nVous parlez aussi de cette cr\u00e9ation en termes de &#8220;m\u00e9taphore&#8221;, expliquant qu&#8217;Obstacle repr\u00e9sente m\u00e9taphoriquement parlant &#8220;les r\u00e9seaux en puissance, les liens al\u00e9atoires entre les id\u00e9es, les concepts, les \u00e9tants&#8221;. Est-ce \u00e0 dire que votre cr\u00e9ation tente de montrer \u00e0 sa mani\u00e8re que tout n&#8217;est que hasard ? Faut-il comprendre que pour vous le monde ne serait qu&#8217;un chaos organis\u00e9 soumis finalement au seul principe d&#8217;incertitude ?<\/p>\n<p>A -Art that is abstract in nature is somewhat of a paradox. The static on the TV when a station goes of the air certainly can be said to be random, uncertain and most would say it&#8217;s not art, yet my work which can be interpreted as random , uncertain and chaotic still manages to convey a feeling, a moment, a memory. A moment of TV static is not easily remembered. A moment of TV static holds the same place in my mind as any other moment of TV static. Abstract art however, tends to be sorted, dwelled upon. My work is a need to convey to the user a message for that user. Where that message originated could be debated; from the user themselves, from a memory that is invoked from watching the piece, from the music.<\/p>\n<p>Question 4 :<br \/>\nToujours en travaillant sur &#8220;liens al\u00e9atoires entre les id\u00e9es, les concepts, les \u00e9tants&#8221;, mais aussi en invitant le spectateur \u00e0 r\u00e9fl\u00e9chir sur cette notion, est-ce que vous ne souhaitez pas mettre en \u00e9vidence, ne serait-ce que de mani\u00e8re m\u00e9taphorique que les \u00e9l\u00e9ments al\u00e9atoires ne se situent &#8220;pas seulement dans les choses, dans les corps mat\u00e9riels&#8221; (J. Baudrillard, Mots de passe, p.60), mais aussi en nous, dans la mesure o\u00f9 en tant que microcosme mol\u00e9culaire par notre pens\u00e9e m\u00eame nous participons \u00e0 ce ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne, ce qui cr\u00e9e in fine, &#8220;l&#8217;incertitude radicale du monde&#8221; ?<\/p>\n<p>A -The certainty of chaos, being that every paradigm we choose to apply ourselves, we have the knowledge that previous paradigm shifts, have shown us that we were mistaken and often they conflict. We can be certain only that there will be another paradigm shift that will reverse our thought once again with the only certainty we will continue to change our thoughts of art and ourselves.<\/p>\n<p>Question 5 :<br \/>\nEn regardant pour la premi\u00e8re fois votre cr\u00e9ation, je n&#8217;ai pu m&#8217;emp\u00eacher de penser au travail de Vera Molnar avec l&#8217;ordinateur, pr\u00e9curseur en son temps. Peut-on voir une influence de cette artiste dans votre pratique artistique ? Pourriez-vous nous dire quel(le)s sont les artistes qui ont marqu\u00e9 votre pratique artistique, et qui continuent de l&#8217;influencer peut-\u00eatre encore aujourd&#8217;hui ?<\/p>\n<p>A &#8211; My biggest influences have been John Coltrane, Eric Dolphy, Miles Davis and many others. I have only recently been introduced to the visual art field. I am still in transition and my visual work rests on sound as its foundation. I am not familiar with Molnar&#8217;s work.<\/p>\n<p>Question 6 :<br \/>\nLorsque l&#8217;on fait l&#8217;exp\u00e9rience esth\u00e9tique de votre animation Obstacle, on a l&#8217;impression d&#8217;avoir affaire \u00e0 un tout tr\u00e8s structur\u00e9, excessivement construit, organis\u00e9 dans un but donn\u00e9, clairement d\u00e9termin\u00e9 par avance. Obstacle appara\u00eet dans son ordonnancement intrins\u00e8que comme l&#8217;oppos\u00e9 de l&#8217;al\u00e9atoire. Comment expliquez-vous ce choix qui consiste \u00e0 proposer \u00e0 l&#8217;internaute une animation non al\u00e9atoire afin de le faire r\u00e9fl\u00e9chir \u00e0 cette notion d&#8217;al\u00e9atoire justement ? Pourquoi ou pour quoi ce choix ?<\/p>\n<p>A -There would appear to be structure from which we build the abstract, although that structure can be interpreted in different ways. Like the structure of a music piece played in minor chords tends to bring sadness, even if the chords are played randomly. It is the challenge for the interpreter (user)to build the structure themselves or to adapt it to a structure they have built previously which brings into question what is random about the piece.<\/p>\n<p>Question 7 :<br \/>\nEst-ce pour mieux fixer l&#8217;attention de l&#8217;internaute sur les points de passage, les lignes de fuite aussi, pour lui donner la possibilit\u00e9 de faire l&#8217;exp\u00e9rience peut-\u00eatre moins d&#8217;une esth\u00e9tique de la participation que de celle de la &#8220;contemplation r\u00e9flexive&#8221; ?<\/p>\n<p>A-The non-interactive participation does help to heighten focus, and relieve the user, of the learning curve of technical understanding or discovering the interactivity of the piece. Although some user&#8217;s minds may wander, as long as the thoughts or wanderings have the piece playing a subtle role, then I feel the piece has had a desirable effect. Others may find them completely submersed in the work, especially with the technological burden lifted, contemplation is easier to achieve.<\/p>\n<p>Question 8 :<br \/>\nLe choix musical est excessivement important dans votre pratique artistique. Vous avez d&#8217;ailleurs r\u00e9cemment particip\u00e9 \u00e0 UPCOMING RELEASE(2), avec une soixantaine d&#8217;autres artistes sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9s dans les cr\u00e9ations sonores. Les sons occupent une place pr\u00e9pond\u00e9rante dans vos animations. Au sujet de IS\u00dc pr\u00e9sent\u00e9e \u00e0 l&#8217;occasion de l&#8217;exposition Ellipse, sur le site Web du Mus\u00e9e du Qu\u00e9bec, ainsi que dans le Pavillon Charles-Baillairg\u00e9 du Mus\u00e9e, le texte du catalogue d&#8217;exposition fait m\u00eame mention d&#8217;un &#8220;hommage rendu aux strat\u00e9gies du mouvement de musique concr\u00e8te \u00e0 Paris, durant les ann\u00e9es 1950 et 1960&#8221;. Pourriez-vous nous dire pourquoi cette &#8220;passion pour l&#8217;\u00c9cole de Paris, pour l&#8217;art du concret ? Pourquoi une moindre attirance pour J. Cage, qui en affirmant que &#8220;tout est musique&#8221; a contribu\u00e9 \u00e0 faire de cette attitude, avec 4&#8217;33&#8221; par exemple, un fait social et universel, historique et philosophique aussi ?<\/p>\n<p>A- This passion is one of many that I draw upon to create a work. In this instance, it is the sounds that we hear and don&#8217;t listen to anymore that interests me. Sounds that surround us and that we have learned to ignore.<\/p>\n<p>Question 9 :<br \/>\nLouis Dandrel, lors d&#8217;une r\u00e9cente conf\u00e9rence donn\u00e9e \u00e0 Paris dans le cadre de l&#8217;Universit\u00e9 de tous les Savoirs, disait que &#8220;Si la musique est l&#8217;art le plus commun, elle est aussi l&#8217;art le plus r\u00e9actif au milieu physique et aux humeurs de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9 par sa fusion originelle avec la vie. Elle r\u00e9v\u00e8le, imite ou s&#8217;oppose&#8221;. Dans votre animation IS\u00dc, il est possible de retrouver toute &#8220;la documentation audiovisuelle, faite de photographies et d&#8217;enregistrements num\u00e9riques in situ, captant les menus d\u00e9tails sonores et visuels dont se compose l&#8217;exp\u00e9rience en cellule&#8221;. Aussi, est-ce qu&#8217;en construisant votre animation de cette mani\u00e8re afin de faire r\u00e9fl\u00e9chir le public sur l&#8217;isolement, entre autres, vous pensez, un peu de la m\u00eame mani\u00e8re que ce musicien, sp\u00e9cialiste sonore, que la question du son est indissociable de toute architecture, comme celle de la lumi\u00e8re d&#8217;ailleurs ?<\/p>\n<p>A -The foundation of all my work starts with the sound, the first experience I am aware of when walking into an empty church, is the reverb. Only then, do my other senses get a chance to bring other things to my attention. My art as well, starts with the sound, this is the first ingredient to the work. So yes, it was the fusion of all the ingredients, but it was the sound that first brought the isolation to my work.<\/p>\n<p>Question 10 :<br \/>\nSi d&#8217;une part IS\u00dc incite le public \u00e0 reconsid\u00e9rer les notions d&#8217;isolement, mais aussi de connectivit\u00e9, en termes de perception, d&#8217;exp\u00e9rience de temps et d&#8217;espace que nous faisons sur Internet ; et si d &#8216;autre part Obstacle incite l&#8217;internaute \u00e0 reconsid\u00e9rer les notions de liens al\u00e9atoires, de fronti\u00e8res, de passage aussi, vos animations non interactives qui donnent \u00e0 voir et \u00e0 entendre, mais aussi et surtout \u00e0 penser, ne participent-elles pas plus d&#8217;une esth\u00e9tique de la r\u00e9flexion que d&#8217;une esth\u00e9tique de la contemplation ?<\/p>\n<p>A-I think for most users, the thinking vs contemplative esthetic will be weighted differently, perhaps from one viewing to another. I think your questions will inspire me to further broaden my thinking esthetic and hence, the next time I view the projects, the weight will fall more on the thinking aspect.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Interview de artcogitans avec I8U Question 1 : A propos de votre animation Obstacle (2003)(1), vous parlez de votre &#8220;obsession&#8221; au sujet des &#8220;transitions&#8221;. 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